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	<title>Comments on: If Google.cn Will Soon Disappear, Should Google &#8220;Burn Its Boats&#8221; On The Way Out?</title>
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		<title>By: DigiCha &#187; Questions For Google If/When Google.cn Shuts Down</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>DigiCha &#187; Questions For Google If/When Google.cn Shuts Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How is Google ensuring the security of the PRC citizens who have legal liability for any actions of the PRC company which held the Internet Content Provider (ICP) license for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: colonel_bleep</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>colonel_bleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Google/China relationship has been oil/water since Goog&#039;s formal entrance 4 years ago, so I don&#039;t think arrogance is at play here. IF the company&#039;s proprietary operations had been  hacked or compromised by the Chinese gov&#039;t &amp; individual e-mails stolen than I can see why Brin blew his stack. It may not have been the &quot;right&quot; approach but it is what it is. If China is not Google&#039;s cup of tea then there is no reason to attend that tea party. Who needs that gnawing, frustrating distraction when there are so many more fun - profitable things to work on. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of money, a lot of folks are thinking Google is throwing away the whole world, as if 300 million is going to turn into 300 billion in a year. It&#039;s bizarre. What if the easy work of internet access in China has already been accomplished? Will the next 30% / 400 million Chinese be as simple to get up and running as the first? Over half the population is rural. The Chinese gov&#039;t plans to alter that demographic from 720 million to 400 million...but over a 40 year time frame. In the meanwhile, how expensive is it to get internet service to the hinterlands? If even possible. Maybe max penetration is only a double from here, which would get Goog revs up to 600 mill (I&#039;m just throwing out numbers here)? Is it worth the aggravation, partaking in something that irks you to hell for the sake of a fraction of your revenues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While Goog&#039;s China revenues went from 0 to 600 mill 2006-&#039;09, their US &amp; worldwide revs jumped from 7 bill to 26 billion!  During that time, despite announcing entry into China &amp; the quad increase in revs &amp; earnings the stock has gone up all of 100 pts, about 17% from 475 to 565. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For Goog, it&#039;s time to move on to TV. They&#039;ll probably make more on that gamble in 5 years than 50 years in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Google/China relationship has been oil/water since Goog&#39;s formal entrance 4 years ago, so I don&#39;t think arrogance is at play here. IF the company&#39;s proprietary operations had been  hacked or compromised by the Chinese gov&#39;t &#038; individual e-mails stolen than I can see why Brin blew his stack. It may not have been the &#8220;right&#8221; approach but it is what it is. If China is not Google&#39;s cup of tea then there is no reason to attend that tea party. Who needs that gnawing, frustrating distraction when there are so many more fun &#8211; profitable things to work on. </p>
<p>In terms of money, a lot of folks are thinking Google is throwing away the whole world, as if 300 million is going to turn into 300 billion in a year. It&#39;s bizarre. What if the easy work of internet access in China has already been accomplished? Will the next 30% / 400 million Chinese be as simple to get up and running as the first? Over half the population is rural. The Chinese gov&#39;t plans to alter that demographic from 720 million to 400 million&#8230;but over a 40 year time frame. In the meanwhile, how expensive is it to get internet service to the hinterlands? If even possible. Maybe max penetration is only a double from here, which would get Goog revs up to 600 mill (I&#39;m just throwing out numbers here)? Is it worth the aggravation, partaking in something that irks you to hell for the sake of a fraction of your revenues.</p>
<p>While Goog&#39;s China revenues went from 0 to 600 mill 2006-&#39;09, their US &#038; worldwide revs jumped from 7 bill to 26 billion!  During that time, despite announcing entry into China &#038; the quad increase in revs &#038; earnings the stock has gone up all of 100 pts, about 17% from 475 to 565. </p>
<p>For Goog, it&#39;s time to move on to TV. They&#39;ll probably make more on that gamble in 5 years than 50 years in China.</p>
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		<title>By: Chine : Une stratégie de retrait pour Google &#124; Now Cut Your Hair</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Chine : Une stratégie de retrait pour Google &#124; Now Cut Your Hair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] parle d&#039;une stratégie possible de retrait de Google en Chine. La stratégie serait celle de  “brûler tous les ponts” derrière lui en quittant la Chine, ce qui signifierait ne plus filtrer les contenus sur le Web et forcer le gouvernement chinois à [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] parle d&#39;une stratégie possible de retrait de Google en Chine. La stratégie serait celle de  “brûler tous les ponts” derrière lui en quittant la Chine, ce qui signifierait ne plus filtrer les contenus sur le Web et forcer le gouvernement chinois à [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rarian Rakista</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Rarian Rakista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will still have Taiwan to work on their Chinese search algorithms.</description>
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		<title>By: DigiCha &#187; Caijing on The Countdown To Google&#8217;s Departure From China</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>DigiCha &#187; Caijing on The Countdown To Google&#8217;s Departure From China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sounds there has not been much &#8220;negotiating&#8221; over the last eight weeks. As I wrote yesterday, Google now most likely needs to decides how they manage the exit from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bbishop</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>bbishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point &quot;Without Chinese people actually using google, google&#039;s search engine for China will deteriorate&quot;. I assume you mean without all the search data Google&#039;s algorithm for the Chinese web will &quot;atrophy&quot;?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree about that Google&#039;s PR team good at what it does. I wish you had read my other post on Google China; I am quite clear that I am quite skeptical of what they have done, as you are. BTW, this is just a blog, not a media outlet, and with zero media affiliations of any kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point &#8220;Without Chinese people actually using google, google&#39;s search engine for China will deteriorate&#8221;. I assume you mean without all the search data Google&#39;s algorithm for the Chinese web will &#8220;atrophy&#8221;?</p>
<p>I agree about that Google&#39;s PR team good at what it does. I wish you had read my other post on Google China; I am quite clear that I am quite skeptical of what they have done, as you are. BTW, this is just a blog, not a media outlet, and with zero media affiliations of any kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest2</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google PR team is pretty good at what it does, which is to hype and politicize this issue as much as it could.  Media outlets such as this one just love to chew this crap up.      &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If google is going to make a political point by shutting down its operations it would of done so already.  MS is lined up already for the Chinese market.  Most Chinese won&#039;t miss it.  Those who do typically know enough English to use regular google hosted elsewhere.  Without Chinese people actually using google, google&#039;s search engine for China will deteriorate.   In the future when people search for anything practical on China they will probably use an alternative.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Everyone will be happy.  Google can pretend to be not evil again; Chinese government can worry less about political instability caused by Google searches; Microsoft and other players see a new business opportunity in a hot market.  What is Google waiting for, just do what it has to do already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google PR team is pretty good at what it does, which is to hype and politicize this issue as much as it could.  Media outlets such as this one just love to chew this crap up.      </p>
<p>If google is going to make a political point by shutting down its operations it would of done so already.  MS is lined up already for the Chinese market.  Most Chinese won&#39;t miss it.  Those who do typically know enough English to use regular google hosted elsewhere.  Without Chinese people actually using google, google&#39;s search engine for China will deteriorate.   In the future when people search for anything practical on China they will probably use an alternative.</p>
<p>Everyone will be happy.  Google can pretend to be not evil again; Chinese government can worry less about political instability caused by Google searches; Microsoft and other players see a new business opportunity in a hot market.  What is Google waiting for, just do what it has to do already.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday links: retail resurgence &#124; Financial engineering resource center</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday links: retail resurgence &#124; Financial engineering resource center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google (GOOG) is nearly certain to close its Chinese search engine.  (Reuters, DigiCha) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bbishop</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>bbishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your not, sorry you seem to have such personal animus. I have actually been involved in the creation of close to a dozen companies in China, both WOFEs and 100% domestic firms. Technically you are correct, and if you were drafting a contract you would make that distinction. However, in normal conversation 法人代表 tends to get truncated to 法人. This is a blog, not a contract, and to people who understand these issues the meaning  is very clear.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks again for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your not, sorry you seem to have such personal animus. I have actually been involved in the creation of close to a dozen companies in China, both WOFEs and 100% domestic firms. Technically you are correct, and if you were drafting a contract you would make that distinction. However, in normal conversation 法人代表 tends to get truncated to 法人. This is a blog, not a contract, and to people who understand these issues the meaning  is very clear.</p>
<p>Thanks again for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://digicha.com/?p=263&#038;cpage=1#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude， 法人is not 人(person)，法人代表 is a person. You obviously know littel about Chinese law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude， 法人is not 人(person)，法人代表 is a person. You obviously know littel about Chinese law.</p>
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